Firstly, I don’t and most probably won’t vote for the Greens with their current policies. They are a “specialist” party in that their focus is on the environment and nothing (much) more.

You said:

“The only people that vote for the greens are people in the city’s that don’t live in the environment they want to protect”

Accoding to electorate results, you aren’t entirely correct there, the Greens got similar results in country towns to urban centres where they didn’t get elected and were standing.

I agree that for some it might be a conscience vote but, unless you are a Climate Change skeptic (read: idiot), you would thing that the Environment is in pretty poor shape and the Greens are the ONLY party with a comprehensive plan to save the environment – and only the environment. Their fiscal and social policies are all over the place, but the one thing they get right is Environmental issues.

“It hasn’t stopped yourself from starting a webpage, operating a server and using more electricity and increasing your own carbon footprint.”

That was a little personal. Would it make you feel better to know that I am with a web hosting company and therefore my server host hundreds of web pages and not just my own? I have chickens that provide me with eggs and fertiliser that would offset my emissions to include the 1/100th of server power I am using. How is your manually powered PC going and your car? I certainly wouldn’t want to be calling the kettle black.

The point I made I though would be obvious – but I’ll explain it here:

A two party dominated system doesn’t work – neither are socially liberal and neither really are downing much for carbon emissions. If the Senate and House of Reps were equally filled with Libs, Labors, Greens and Democrats we would have REAL debate and a chance that the majority of people would feel as if they are being heard and that the Government are actually working for the people. A multifaced Government is a healthy one.

While I do think the Greens are sometimes batshit insane they deserve to be heard because their message, while extreme, is what needs to be heard.

I am also confused by your motives… are you saying Brother Abbott and Big Kev should go virtually unchallenged as the push conservative Christian morals on us? While they allow industry, where most of the pollution comes from, to go on untouched?

Realistically there are only two major alternatives to gain any seats – the Greens and the Dems… nobody would seriously suggest that the Sex Party or the Liberal Democratic Party really have a hope. We need alternatives to the Liberal/Labor record. Besides it would make things alot more exciting.

“The greens there voters are the biggest hypocrites in Australian politics.”

Even more than “Liberals” which by it’s definition definition is a hypocritical title for the conservative party?

Oh and the “increase in undergrowth” wouldn’t have been an issue if

a) People didn’t live in areas where bushfires NATURALLY OCCOUR

b) Global Warming hadn’t caused a spike in temperature levels and created the drought that dried the land

and

c) The possibility of arson

- db

There campaigning against back burning because it was bad for the environment considerably increased the threat of those fires on that day. They were banning farmers from grazing stock in the hills around gippsland – thus leading to an increase in undergrowth – In some instances they do more harm for the environment than they bloody help

The only people that vote for the greens are people in the city’s that don’t live in the environment they want to protect – They no nothing about the environment they want to protect except some koalas or some random species of parrot lives there. It is a conscience vote to make them fell better – but doesn’t stop them jumping in there 4 wheel drives and cranking there aircon in there house so its cool when they get back. It hasn’t stopped yourself from starting a webpage, operating a server and using more electricity and increasing your own carbon footprint. The greens there voters are the biggest hypocrites in Australian politics.